Fully constrained sketch, wire not closed ? [solved] (2024)

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FredCailloux
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Fully constrained sketch, wire not closed ? [solved]

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I have this, not so complicated, sketch from which I get an error when trying to PAD .

The sketch is fully constrained and yet FreeCAD complain that the "Wire is not closed".
Questions:
1- Is it possible to have a fully constrained sketch with un-closed wires ?
2- How can I find where the problem is ?

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Re: Fully constrained sketch, wire not closed ?

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Try using the Sketcher ValidateSketch tool. Can you share the file ?

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There is a bit of misconception about the state "fully constrained". It really means all DOF's have a constraint applied and there are no redundant, over constraints, etc. situations. It does not imply the shape won't change or that it is considered closed.

To be considered closed all coincident vertexes must be marked coincident. Physical proximity does not imply coincident. And grid snap does not add coincident constraints.

You can deactivate a few geometric or dimensional constraints and wiggle the edges until you find the vertexes that aren't coincident.

You can also close the sketch and use the Validate sketch tool to find them.

You can also begin using polyline, trim, etc tools that automatically add coincident constraints to avoid the issue.

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From what we have seen in the past, it is well possible that you have additional elements doubling the visible ones.

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A solution : do multiple but simple sketches instead of just complex one.

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it's still a crystal ball enigma: without a file how do you want us to do

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Re: Fully constrained sketch, wire not closed ? (solved)

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Shalmeneser wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:14 amFully constrained sketch, wire not closed ? [solved] (12)

Thanks for this tutorial. Very helpful.
It shows me a much more intuitive method of doing things... step by step with simpler sketches.
I will change my method for now on. Much appreciated.

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Simple sketches are less prone to TNP when refered.

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